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Re: [ProgSoc] International Solaris 10 University Challenge
On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 23:37 +1000, jedd wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:22 am, Myles Byrne wrote:
> ] Just wanted to chime in here and say I agree with Jedd on this one.
>
> My respect for you just went through the roof. ;)
Fuck you :p
> ] They make good hardware now. They always have, even if it used to be a
> ] bit overpriced. They're strategy should be to make great software to
>
> I think their hardware advantage is slipping (actually I think it
> slipped a long time ago) but they haven't come to terms with it yet.
>
> 5 years ago I was working with a mob running a 90GB Oracle
> database on some medium sized Sun hardware. We cranked up the
> same version of Oracle on some commodity x86 hardware and were
> getting significantly better performance. List price of the Sun kit
> was an order of magnitude more than the 4-way Dell. Maintenance
> was the next big killer. The claim of unbreakable hardware becomes
> irrelevant when you can go and buy two of everything and still come
> out at a fifth the price. As failover software improves in the
> GNU/Linux world, I can't see the Suns and IBMs being able to convince
> anyone of the benefits of their medium-sized and big-priced iron.
>
> (Yes, IO is more important on Big Pootas than processing grunt,
> and their Big Hardware still does stuff that it's hard to do with
> commodity kit, but that's not going to be the case for much longer.
> The gap's been narrowing for a while, and it'd be hubris to believe
> that it won't close soon.)
They're making a comeback with the hardware.
http://au.sun.com/catalog/?n-state=http://catalog.sun.com/partpricing.xml?site%3dAUSTRALIAAU%26catalogue%3dFC%26segment%3dFC_R%26item%3dFC_SC_CAT%26group%3d2010%26fid%3d5118%26id%3d13158~~~G!015B1EABC2A7!JiIRVvSREpgpGw16sJsx~standard~ws-nocache
[sidenote: If the url looks that bad, I'd hate to be the developer
maintaining the code for the site. Probably written in the
java/hibernate/spring/struts/jakarta/etc. stack from hell]
My point: $992 for a 1U machine with an opteron chip is a really good
deal. Good hardware, reasonable (nay cheap) price, this is what Sun
should be about.
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(O.o)
(> <)
-- Myles
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