[ProgSoc] VSU (Was: What should the exec do? (Was: Scrap VSU info from UTS Union))
Nicholas FitzRoy-Dale
wzdd at progsoc.org
Mon Mar 9 21:18:01 EST 2009
On 09/03/2009, at 8:48 PM, Anand Kumria wrote:
> Andi's theory is that the tax imposed by the Union provides a
> "necessary and critical service" (a social scene).
>
> So far none of the arguments presented counter that.
I'm pretty sure that no political party who ran on the "fund a social
scene" ticket would get elected.
Andi's argument is logically sound and the counter-argument is that
the Union is nothing like the Goverment because nobody would vote for
the things the Union provides if Australia and billions of dollars,
rather than UTS and thousands of dollars, were at stake.
The obvious counter-argument to that is that clearly Australia and UTS
have differing "critical needs", and the response is that if that is
so clearly the case it is inappropriate to draw parallels between
mandatory student unionism and the Government.
There is no totally satisfying way to determine if UTS really does
have "critical needs" AND that those critical needs are best satisfied
by voluntary student unionism, but one way that I think is reasonably
acceptable is to ask if a large majority think that is the case. I
don't know if a large majority of students are in favour of MSU. I am,
however, pretty certain that an overwhelming majority of Australians
think we need a Government (and taxes) of some form.
Nicholas
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