On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 08:24 +0700, Roland Turner wrote: > Erm, how did that happen? This happened because members made commitments on behalf of the society that should never have been made without detailed discussion among the executive. Here's some context: "No. No. Hell no." -- Robert Howard (CTO), 30/01/07 "Please say "we're interested" but do not say "yes"..." -- Myself (President), 30/01/07 I still can't fathom how an email ended up being sent shortly after that saying we'd do it. As far as I can tell, Peter Gale had approached CK regarding the offer to support UTS wireless. Part of the conversation included Peter outlining how he often has to convince the faculty that Progsoc should not pay for bandwidth, specifically alluding to the fact that in recent times, ITD has been forced to pay their own way. Talk of loosing our room also arose, although I'm unsure whether it was just a rumour or if Peter raised concerns of this happening. As President at the time, I probably did the wrong thing by not immediately approaching the University and getting some kind of formal acknowledgement of Progsoc's present and future standing with regards to our room and Internet access. Prior to this, I'd informally approached Tharam Dhillon who was Dean of FIT at the time to discuss treatment of Progsoc by the faculty and University as a whole. This was mainly over two problems: 1. Members of the Progsoc executive (myself included) were thrown out of O'Camp in 2006 by the Associate Dean of FIT, which meant we were unable to talk about Progsoc to prospective members (the new students IT). 2. Progsoc was told it could no longer book rooms within building 10 (FIT). I decided I'd speak to the Dean about what the hell was going on, during which both the room booking and access to O'Camp were granted. Perhaps as Roland says, it's time for the current executive to seek formal acknowledgement of the University's commitment to Progsoc. As it stands, it seems as though the interests of both parties are conflicting. This conflict could lead to Progsoc straying from its charter and loosing what Progsoc has always stood for. Cheers, -- Nathan de Vries
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