[ProgSoc] [Fwd: Re: RSVP Forum: Internet filtering and censorship proposals]

sanguinev at progsoc.org sanguinev at progsoc.org
Wed Nov 26 13:01:53 EST 2008


Still waiting for them to respond to myne...

John Elliot wrote:
>
> Thought for the day:
>
> When you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.
>
> p.s. So... how did everyone else's RSVP go? See you there.
>
>
>
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> Subject:
> RE: RSVP Forum: Internet filtering and censorship proposals
> From:
> "David Vaile" <d.vaile at unsw.edu.au>
> Date:
> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:37:40 +1100
> To:
> "John Elliot" <jj5 at jj5.net>
>
> To:
> "John Elliot" <jj5 at jj5.net>
> CC:
> "Glenda Owen" <g.owen at unsw.edu.au>
>
>
> OK John, we have you on the list, look forward to seeing you there. 
>
> Note that we are deliberately seeking to avoid heated arguments about
> 'censorship is good or evil per se', and we are not aiming to get
> everyone agreeing or even ventilating their views; we are trying to
> explore the underlying arguments, justifications, evidence, rationale,
> assumptions, technical constraints etc. so everyone can later form their
> own views from a better-informed base. 
>
> The session chairs will be briefed to cut short passionate appeals for
> about in-principle support or disapproval of various positions, and to
> make room for closer forensic examination of those positions leaving
> room for later judgement. 
>
> This approach is because there is plenty of heat, smoke and flame wars
> on this topic, but that is not conducive to careful exploration of the
> merits of the various arguments, propositions and factual details, so we
> have no wish to provide a forum for the former.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Elliot [mailto:jj5 at jj5.net] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:24 PM
>> To: David Vaile
>> Cc: Glenda Owen
>> Subject: Re: RSVP Forum: Internet filtering and censorship proposals
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Yes -- this is a serious RSVP.
>>
>> I find it difficult to stomach that this is a serious topic on our 
>> social agenda, however.
>>
>> I've booked out the day in my diary, and I'm committed to attending.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Elliot.
>>
>>
>> David Vaile wrote:
>>     
>>> Dear John, 
>>>
>>> Is this a serious RSVP? 
>>>
>>> The ironic footnote leaves us in doubt. 
>>>
>>> We are vulgar functionalists and need a simple answer.  Are you
>>> committed to attending?
>>>
>>> http://cyberlawcentre.org/2008/censorship/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> David Vaile
>>> Executive Director
>>> Cyberspace Law and Policy Centre, UNSW
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Glenda Owen 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:43 AM
>>>> To: David Vaile
>>>> Subject: FW: RSVP Forum: Internet filtering and censorship 
>>>>         
>> proposals
>>     
>>>> Hi David
>>>>
>>>> This is the email I discussed with you
>>>>
>>>> Glenda 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Elliot [mailto:jj5 at jj5.net] 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 10:48 AM
>>>> To: clpc.admin at unsw.edu.au
>>>> Subject: RSVP Forum: Internet filtering and censorship proposals
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I'd love [1] to attend on Thursday, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Elliot.
>>>>
>>>> [1] Just as much as I'd love to attend a discussion on the relative
>>>> merits of ethnic cleansing, or the deployment of 
>>>>         
>> biological weapons.
>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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